Showing posts with label TRADISMATIC RENEWAL. Show all posts
Showing posts with label TRADISMATIC RENEWAL. Show all posts

Friday, 1 June 2012

Tradismatic Renewal 3

TRADISMATIC RENEWAL 3

It turns out that I am not the only person who thinks that the Charisms should once again be spread like leaven throughout the body of the Catholic Church and that the traditional arm of the Church should once again reclaim it for their own. They have also used the word 'Tradismatic'.


The blogger known as Catholic School Master has some thoughts which you may find interesting. He goes in to a little more depth and poses some questions.




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Sunday, 27 May 2012

TRADISMATIC RENEWAL 2

PENTECOST

It is time to reclaim the charisms back for the Church from those in charismatic renewal. They are part of the traditions of our Catholic Church.

When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled,
they were all in one place together.
And suddenly there came from the sky
a noise like a strong driving wind,
and it filled the entire house in which they were.
Then there appeared to them tongues as of fire,
which parted and came to rest on each one of them.
And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit
and began to speak in different tongues,
as the Spirit enabled them to proclaim.


Now there were devout Jews from every nation under heaven staying in Jerusalem.


At this sound, they gathered in a large crowd, but they were confused because each one heard them speaking in his own language. They were astounded, and in amazement they asked,

"Are not all these people who are speaking Galileans? Then how does each of us hear them in his native language?"



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Wednesday, 23 May 2012

TRADISMATIC RENEWAL

TRADISMATIC RENEWAL


There is a growing call for the Charisms of the Church to be reclaimed back from those in Charismatic Renewal. Those charisms were once the preserve not only of those in religious orders but, they were once also the preserve of those we would now call traditionalists. Those charisms originally made up the traditions of the Church. We can actually go one step further and say that they are supposed to be spread throughout the whole body of Christ.

The charisms of the Church are scripturally meant for every Catholic. However, when those in charismatic renewal adopted the ridiculed and despised ‘happy clappy’ approach the whole concept and theology behind the charisms of the Church became alienating to vast swathes of Catholics from traditionalists to Latinists (where the charisms had originally existed). Once again the liberals played a destructive role in this arena because the non-scripture believing liberals accepted the ‘happy clappy’ aspects but rejected the theology.


Did you know that a Bishop's Mitre is that shape because it represents the flames above the apostles heads at Pentecost

Around the early 1970's Catholics then started their own separate charismatic renewal group. However, 'the great plan' failed wholesale. Those in charismatic renewal were  supposed to go out from these experiences and their conferences and build up their own 
spirituality so that:


1) They could take an active role in their own salvation
2) They could help others attain their salvation
3) They could build up God's kingdom
4) They could build up The body of Christ.



However, what happened was that the vast majority became involved in what is now known as the 'charismatic jungle' who chased from one conference to the next, and were only a part of it for what they could get out of it for themselves. Many Catholic charismatic groups also lead their membership in a protestant direction. There was a recent argument on this issue on the excellent Fr Ray's Blog. I will leave it to you to pick the story apart. However, there are plenty of others on there that agree, including some uber-traditionalists.